I can't remember if this happens every time Daylight Savings Time begins or ends.

It should be a temporary thing.  Or not, depending on how Invision has its servers set up. 

This 'certificate' is the SSL/TLS credentials attached to the domain name that tell your browser that you are really at the site that you think you are, and are not being spoofed or redirected.  I do not know what systems Invision (both our forum software and the company that hosts it) uses to monitor this, but on many LAMP stack (Linux, Apache, MySQL, PHP) these things are automatically corrected in short order by the system issuing a new certificate.

At issue is the time and date recorded on the certificate no longer is in sync with the server system clock. 

We will have to wait until it heals, because there is absolutely no one we can complain to.  My servers for websites jumped this hurdle with new certs at 2AM or whenever the time rolled.  But PN is not on my servers, so...  😄

So I gained an hour with DST ending, plus all the hours I usually waste here...I've got a lot of free time today. Photography?

photo.net is still blocked by most browsers due to its SSL certificate expiration. I have to use Safari and accept it is a "dangerous" site.

So I hope the web master and developers of this website is working on it? Or their browser will block their own access as well? 😅

Also blocked on Firefox and Chrome.

If you get an itch to post and talk about something, you could also join a few others over at FotoFora...  😀

Our certificate is current.  😼

16 minutes ago, PapaTango said:

If you get an itch to post and talk about something, you could also join a few others over at FotoFora...  😀

Our certificate is current.  😼

I thought about that but it's maintained by the same people isn't it. Lost faith.

16 hours ago, Sanford said:

I thought about that but it's maintained by the same people isn't it. Lost faith.

Well, if a member that has been here since 1999--and cleaned up the mess that was left of PN back at the first of this year is the "same people" then that is true!

I am the publisher of that site, and it was built with this day in mind...  🤔 It has absolutely no connection to PN, it's owners, assigns or heirs.  Just me, 300 hours of coding and development work, and a $3500USD investment.

It is the product of 30 years of professional internet and networking experience.  Given the fact that the owners of PhotoNet were not (and are still not) communicating with us, I felt after nearly 120 hours of administrative work to clean up the mess left behind by Fiveer's admin Matt Jensen (within the limitations of this platform)--FotoFora was born in the spirit of what PN once was in its heyday from 2009-2016, when Phil's original platform was in place.  That began in February, and formally launched in April.  Quite a few PN members contributed to the planning and thinking.

Consider this:

http://fotofora.net/faq/view/about-fotofora.5/#faq-14

Remember that Phil Greenspun was just one person who began PhotoNet.  I am the one person who began FotoFora.  The rest is up to the community membership!  🍿

Thanks PapaTango (whoever you are).  I may give your site a try using regular MS Chrome, not the Incognito setting I needed so to more easily bypass security and access PN right now.  PN has been kneecapped by the expired certificate since Nov 4th.  Its absolutely ridiculous that it has not already been fixed.

It it possible to create an independent, dedicated gallery with my own address on FotoFora? That's what I really want.

9 minutes ago, Ken Katz said:

Thanks PapaTango (whoever you are).  I may give your site a try using regular MS Chrome, not the Incognito setting I needed so to more easily bypass security and access PN right now.  PN has been kneecapped by the expired certificate since Nov 4th.  Its absolutely ridiculous that it has not already been fixed.

There a a few reasons that the Amazon SSL/TLS secure certificate has not been renewed.  For most websites, the issuance of certificates is an automated process.  PN is hosted by Invision Community (IPS), the developer of this software platform.  A temporary administrator IPS joined this site about 20 hours ago, and it is still broken.  No one from Fiveer has been here since October 2.  Here is Invision's details:

https://invisioncommunity.com/buy/buy/

As to who I am, consider this bloviation:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickthrush

https://papatango.photography/about/

13 minutes ago, Sanford said:

It it possible to create an independent, dedicated gallery with my own address on FotoFora? That's what I really want.

Yup.  After you have logged in, click on the | Member Albums | tab in the main top menu.

Click on the green | Add Images | button.  Here you can add images to Topical Categories, create and upload to personal albums or existing albums.

The only thing I ask new members is to be considerate of the number of daily posts.  The site is new and dozens of images at once overwhelm the image strips and notices.  Gradually is the key, and after all, the purpose of the site is to look at and discuss the images.  We had a former member drop over 400 images in a short time.  They are no longer with us...    As membership grows and more are posting, this sort of thing will not have a great impact.

https://petapixel.com/2023/10/17/the-photography-on-the-net-forums-is-shutting-down/

@Nick D. I am surprised--but really not--to hear of POTN shutting down.  I posed the same argument last month in this thread:

Some communities that adequately monetize themselves are doing quite well.  Photrio.Org pops immediately to mind.  But also, that world is built on information primarily.  Smaller, dedicated communities can thrive also. 

Thanks for posting the article, I have published it as a discussion article at the 'other place'.  😎

https://fotofora.net/ams/the-photography-on-the-net-forums-is-shutting-down.54/

"photo.net" one of the great website names, shame to lose it.

2 hours ago, Sanford said:

"photo.net" one of the great website names, shame to lose it.

It shouldn't. It just needs the system admin to update the certificate.

"Photo.net" is sailing on autopilot right now, but it can't operate that way forever, servers time cost money:(

I will miss all of you guys, this is the one of few good old sites.

11 hours ago, PapaTango said:

Remember that Phil Greenspun was just one person who began PhotoNet.  I am the one person who began FotoFora.  The rest is up to the community membership!  🍿

Indeed. well stated.

Certainly that statement forwards the conversation, rather than adding kerosene to yet another, in part, bemoaning chat.

Now all I require is more time available from my business commitments. I hope to be more regularly FotoFora available around March next year.

WW     

@William Michael I know the owners appears not to care, but as moderator, don't you have a lifeline to anyone in the back office that could show a little mercy?

One can't expect users to ignore their browser security warnings to visit photo.net.

It is unbearable to see this once great site suffocate from lack of update of a measly certificate.

1 hour ago, Niels - NHSN said:

update of a measly certificate

Is there a fee involved?

Mmm, Guess Photo.Net is dead now, at least for Windows users, in windows i cannot choose “ ignore, continue anyway” , like on iOS …

2 hours ago, Niels - NHSN said:

but as moderator, don't you have a lifeline to anyone in the back office

Correct. I do not.

As you phrase it - "a lifeline" - I have the same options as any member.

I was contacted two days ago by email from two other Moderators asking if I had any direct contacts - which I do not have, nor do they.

I have sent a PM to the Temporary Administrator IPS who logged on Tuesday morning (USA time) - REF please see the post above by Papa Tango "A temporary administrator IPS joined this site about 20 hours ago, and it is still broken."

My expectation is that it will be fixed when someone with access to fix it, realizes that there is an issue, which, on the face of it, appears to be a clock sync/certificate issue which on most internet search engines triggers either a warning not to proceed or denies the capacity to proceed to the site.

If you're interested, I attained my log to Photo.net in via Firefox, which allows the security warning to be ignored. 

WW

I've spent less and less time here as the year progressed. I'm able to get on by ignoring warnings with Windows 7 but my I pad won't allow it. Hate to see it go, been here a long time. Hope I can remember the name of the new place.

Rick H.

I have not able to login in with my Android Tablet or Phone and not been able to login with my Windows 11 computer because of this certificate error.

The clicking on advanced would not show the proceed anyway (unsafe) option is not showing up. Obviously something has changed in a security update.

After two days, I have a solution. Please see attached instructions.

5 hours ago, Niels - NHSN said:

@William Michael I know the owners appears not to care, but as moderator, don't you have a lifeline to anyone in the back office that could show a little mercy?

One can't expect users to ignore their browser security warnings to visit photo.net.

It is unbearable to see this once great site suffocate from lack of update of a measly certificate.

Indeed.  We were tossed such a 'lifeline' back in January when one of our member administrators was extended platform admin rights by an admin who is long gone, but felt badly about the mess that was left by the last migration, and how we had been seemingly abandoned by Fiveer last year.  That newly elevated member admin then granted me the same rights, and I brought everything up to functionality and presentation as best I could without access to any funding or the ability to install addon modules to extend things that folks were complaining about.  That was as TGOPS, and I have since discarded the credentials to log in that way.

However, our problem is not in the forum software admin panel, but on the server itself--which is a whole different universe.  As I stated before, we use "brand hosting" in that Invision Communities hosts their software for us--and is supposed to take care of updates and issues through their support staff.  Note also that the issuance date and expiration coincide with the time of the last migration from Xenforo.  Certificates of Authority are customarily issued by the server every 3 months, or once yearly depending upon the hosting.  The cost may be built into the service contract, or paid by the site owners.  Whatever the issue, it does not bode well, as the system is likely sending many messages to someone about this issue--which are not being read or worse, being ignored.

Someone authorized as an account manager from Fiveer has to get hold of their support rep from Invision and get them to fix this.  No member admin has access to the server admin panels that control our security.  As no one listed in the admin list from Fiveer sees fit to respond to any of our messages--and there were a number of us on a campaign to do so at the beginning of the year--we have no real options.  I even took the step Tuesday to contact Invision and was told that as I was not an authorized account administrator they could not help me or refer me to tech support. 

An "IPS Temporary Administrator" is probably not a human.  Invision uses these accounts to push regular updates and fixes to their software.  The only thing I see that happened was that our set of Smiley's was replaced with a new one.  I call BS on that, as they took away one of my favorite icons...

Of all the failures and transitions that I thought were possible that would lead to the collapse of PN, this simple thing was not one of them. 🤔