cris_yarborough Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 I have been photographing negatives for a long time using a light table. I recently moved into mirrorless and this time I got serious banding. The amount of bands changes depending on shutter speed. The attached images was shot using the Sony a7RV and 90mm 2.8 Macro. The exposure here is 1/30th @ f/5.6. The other photo is the setup. I use ABS tubes cut to a specific length for a given negative size which eliminates outside light and is spot on for filling the frame each time. The light table is old (from the 1980s) and used daylight balanced fluorescent lights. I am wondering if this is a light cycle/flicker issue of some sort. If I shoot much slower, 1/4th or so, the banding is much less noticeable. However, then I have issues with motion. QUESTIONS: 1) Am I correct that the light source is the issue? 2) Can someone recommend a better light source? Thanks for any help with this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaldog Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Do you see banding when viewing the image data at 1:1 (100%) zoom in, say, Photoshop? That is very important to consider. Also keep in mind that if you do see such banding at that ratio, it may be in the actual image data or it could be in the display preview path. But let's start with viewing the image data ideally. You might consider uploading a sample to something like Dropbox so others can examine this. Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management" (pluralsight.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cris_yarborough Posted October 22, 2023 Author Share Posted October 22, 2023 1 hour ago, digitaldog said: Do you see banding when viewing the image data at 1:1 (100%) zoom in, say, Photoshop? That is very important to consider. Also keep in mind that if you do see such banding at that ratio, it may be in the actual image data or it could be in the display preview path. But let's start with viewing the image data ideally. You might consider uploading a sample to something like Dropbox so others can examine this. Yes, the banding is still there at 100%. As I mentioned, it changes depending on shutter speed. My guess is that if I go below 1/4th second it would be gone but that has been making crisp copies impossible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaldog Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 If you don't see banding at certain shutter speeds, that's the issue. Likely your shutter speed is not synced up with the refresh rate/frequency of the light source. Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management" (pluralsight.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
digitaldog Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 (edited) As for a better lightsource, I've had success with the Kaiser Slimlite Plano LED light box: https://kaiserfotous.com/search.php?search_query_adv=slimlite https://kaiserfotous.com/?gad=1&gclid=CjwKCAjwkNOpBhBEEiwAb3MvvZZYZFiASikjA2QCGIHRNdi3MWaAX3-BOO4Nx4cPbhs_JyjON-sjuhoC8oUQAvD_BwE Edited October 22, 2023 by digitaldog Author “Color Management for Photographers" & "Photoshop CC Color Management" (pluralsight.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmac Posted October 22, 2023 Share Posted October 22, 2023 Yes it's the fluorescent light. You'll need a frosted filament bulb or LED as digitaldog suggested. With the set up you have there now, if you remove the negative, you should see flickering on your camera's screen. Alternatively, hold the camera up to a bare fluorescent light bulb and you'll see more intense flickering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Seaman Posted October 23, 2023 Share Posted October 23, 2023 I use flash for DSLR scanning. It has a well defined colour temperature, eliminates camera shake and gives much more flexibility in terms of aperture. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ted_davis1 Posted October 27, 2023 Share Posted October 27, 2023 I also use flash. Excellent quality, no banding or slow shutter shake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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